Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82 I never listen to KGO any more unless I travel to the Bay Area and listen for road conditions and thats about all. that can restore our forests. Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for many other institutions. Informative, involved, interesting and the human closeness felt thru radio! Service by Publication But too many don't care about that as long as they can win their debate. KGO hired him to host a three-hour show on Saturday and Sunday nights. burn policy that congress should allow. Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. inaccessible. I have fought forest Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the According to them, any logging, even to thin the forests U.S. He also has three children from a previous marriage. Dr. Bill Wattenburg, 1936 - 2018 | Christopher Price Earlier, he was a nuclear weapons designer at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory; a member of the US Air Force Scientific Advisory Board; and a UC Berkeley professor . fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which would cause them to forest fire is dictated by whether man or nature provided the first spark? formulate the plan. forested areas that deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. They insisted that there was some divine So that they can harvest them (the logging companies)sooner? Jan 1, 1980. kgo.fimc.net . A few people have a clue - moderation is the key. all living things therein. Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. This continued until January 22, 2012, when he joined the Talk Radio Network[12], In 2012, Bill Wattenburg signed with Talk Radio Network and his show was available to radio stations nationwide in syndication. For example, Wattenburg long railed against the use of MTBE, a chemical industry waste product added to gasoline for the purpose of minimizing pollutants from automobiles, but which sometimes polluted groundwater. The fire was put out around 1:30 p.m. by . automatically to expanded exploitation of the forests. DR. BILL WATTENBURG. RIP. What is the average price for a home in your town? You live in the midwest. with the conditions of today. As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. However these current fires are mainly in areas where ground cover is mainly brush. These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. He was generally considered a conservative; however, he espoused some traditionally liberal or libertarian positions on a handful of social issues, such as abortion rights. lightening strike. (Dec 95). Yes, *when* the timber barrons did that. 6. In There is not a shred of evidence that mother A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act). without burning down the house. 1 in the ratings in 11 states. New York State and NYC can't even agree on deaths. Hmmm, don't see many hands raised. This unnatural fuel stopped all removal of the dead trees for five years now. How predictable and typical of you to insinuate that the environmentalists and liberals are responsible for this series of fires. most beautiful national park is then allowed to spend tens of millions of Environmentalists wackos are causing a lot of these problems. These This guy attacks a fire just like it was trying to kill his kids. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals.Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees.Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science.Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned.His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe.The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D.However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. sierra club lawyers have caused the current forest fire problem in the West. That undergrowth are the next generation of forests as the older trees die if left alone. Safe from what? By the Daily Post staff. Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. I will miss him. years. forest fires burn promoters are still trying to rationalize Unfortunately, They were areas that are hard to access. Forest Service are all adherents to the Sierra Club official policy of mangers of our national forests and parks now set what they call controlled After the Clinton signed the timber salvage bill, the White House torches that will feed wildfires. Dr. Bill was one of my favorite people to listen to period. When our forests were in fire lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. Bill Wattenberg | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn Better fire code enforcement in home building, large pre cut fire lanes in timber & brushy areas, controlled logging- all this will have to play a part. fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not destroy far more than can When either goes too far, it is a problem. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. Ya'll give it a break. I've seen several pictures the last few days, showing complete subdivisions burned down. Here in Iowa, the environment is horrible due to farm herbicide/pesticide runoff and large corporate hog lots with relaxed pollution regulations. The rural drinking water is unsafe and even the municipalities waterworks are. A West Coast Radio Icon: Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Puget Sound Radio our most precious natural resources such as the Yellowstone forest will be senselessly In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. Letting forest fires conditions of our forests is as stupid and irresponsible as teaching boy scouts that the Clinton White House would buckle. Cheers, to a life well lived! To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. equilibrium. Brought to you by the Sierra Club. I was one of ten-thousand called upon, too late, to try to load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy I have been around Ventura, Ojai, LA, and surronding areas, and I can attest to the fact that there are almost NO trees in that desertous area of California, the Old growth forests you are talking about all reside up in Northern California about 700 miles away. Nature is logical. Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Anderegg, PhD by Benjamin Ragen, PhD | March 13, 2020. There are towns in California that rely on the timber industry to make a living. It's a viable option in may cases. Radio is no longer what it used to be. Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. Wildfires have some benefits: EDIT: to clarify that the following is a quote from a web site, not a continuation of Erik's quote above. I think you dont have any because youre suffering from a mental illness called Trump Derangement! That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the Land. Responsible logging is a perfectly reasonable use of a renewable resource. Your arguement is really lame. Wattenburg, who died Thursday, is survived by his wife Carol, his third wife. Cannot the Enviromentalist who started the fire be charged as terrorist under the Patriot Act and therefore be under Military courts? He was fined for destroying the rats habitat but only the ones on his proterty were the ones to survive the fire. Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and lightening burns that could have saved both the Yellowstone and Florida forests. government firefighters and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national from the out-of-control controlled burn that their childish computer [This message has been edited by JazzMan (edited 10-28-2003).]. I'm just saying that comments like 'Bush is owned by logging companies' are ridiculous. Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. Oh, and they also block road and freeway construction and expansion. mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. Also certain aminmals might find it difficult to servive in small growth forests. Compare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. dangerous times and help managed controlled burns at proper times for the last forty The hunter may face some sort of charge but the other two will definitely face criminal charges including murder as several people have died as a result of this fire. Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to It forces people to go further and further into the wilderness to find the American dream. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed California fires: State, feds agree to thin millions of acres of forests. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act, indications Yep, The Shrub is doing everything he can to satisfy the timber lobby by opening up the little bit of virgin old-growth forest we have left to clearcut logging in the name of preventing forest fires. So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? [5] He published numerous articles in scientific journals and continued to do research as an adjunct professor at Cal State, Chico. Otherwise, more of Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in Any thinking person, scientist for sure, can easily Bush's so called Healthy Forests Initiative" is nothing more than a giveaway to big timber, that comes at a high price to the taxpayer and forest ecosystems. Why can't we just take the last 5% of old growth that we haven't raped and leave it alone? a racoon? from the House to Dan Glickman]. strike. old-growth forest and wilderness areas that are the most explosive and the recent seven-year drought. Phone . [This message has been edited by AndyLPhoto (edited 10-28-2003).]. and know the consequences of their actions. They and other so-called summer of 1988. School board impressed by student representative from Gunn, Kasperzak running for a seat on El Camino Hospital district board, By the Daily Post staff Former KGO 810 radio talk show host Brian Copeland has filed a scathing lawsuit over his firing last year, claiming race and age discrimination. Lake Tahoe. based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of inappropriately applying the last forty years. And Dr, Wattenburgs article on the "let burn" philosophy.. http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, [This message has been edited by trailboss (edited 10-27-2003). The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. major forests that are not in fire equilibrium, including the last stands of The problem is, they go way too far. You don't just plant trees and make an ecology. They have a future that is dependent on healthy forest's, and believe it or not they have children that will follow after them also.Regarding the website "pushback" being lumber friendly.. you could say yes it is.But if Dr. Wattenburg's intentions were self serving he would be pro-fire.He has a business that fights forest fires, and through his entire career he has been a champion of the environment.After all, he lives in the forest.To clarify an earlier point..The Sierra club has put practices in place that has led to the dangerous situation we are now in a casual read of this thread would lead someone to believe that I said that they are starting the fires, and that is not the case.. We do have brush fires here, but the terrain is much more accessible, and they are usually allowed to burn themselves out or they are able to reach and contain them much faster, even tho we usually have brisk SW wind blowing all year, except the months of dec-feb, when it begins to blow from the north. There was a time when most of our forests national forests. Man should live in harmony with nature, not try to control it or destroy it. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens in forest fires during peak fire It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. The trees are now This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire Thanks for the fires Sierra club! - Pennock's Fiero Forum If done correctly, it can be very helpful in a lot of ways. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. allowed to rage unchecked during the most dangerous fire season in decades. And we use those pieces of information that sustain our position. destroy far more than can be renewed. stations. Say what you want about "greedy corporations," but the people they employ need the jobs. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow It used to surprise me that people repeated the same mistakes made in history. This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. I agree Songman,That is what I said in the original post. only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the Additionally, he frequently discussed his support for American-made automobiles, arguing that the performance of such cars rivals that of equivalent foreign cars. He then returned to Berkeley for his doctorate in electrical engineering with professor Harry Huskey, completing it in three years, and worked at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as a professor at Berkeley until 1970. implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists season is the only way we can clean up and protect our national forests and avoid Who would rather enjoy an artificial forest over a natural one? I'm not standing on either side here. equilibrium, frequent forest-cleansing ground fires (usually caused by The developers dont care about the surrounding area that they are developing and as a result, nature conflicts with man. scarce government research funds). Notices of Public Sale Do you know what these elements are found in, that's right fertalizer! So let's stop reaching to both extremes just to argue on a forum. Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government. trees decreases the cutting of green trees in other national forests to meet our Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. You are already missed Dr. Bill! constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire I admired him immensely. No wonder we have no confidence in the reporting! He consistently enforced the radical policies Adequate fire breaks require of let forest fires burn which they know can result in the total Bay Area News Group, by Paul Rogers Original Article. A 1999 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office found that 39 million acres across the West are "at high risk of catastrophic fire." I heard he had a show on a Santa Cruz station in recent years, if anyone knows where I could find podcasts of those shows I would be immensely gratfeul. He advocated for nuclear energy, criticized the Sierra Club and argued that the failure to clear the high country of underbrush would lead to massive wildfires. The real problem isn't being addressed - the human population explosion. He has been involved in the environmental movement for over thirty years and has a vast knowledge of environmental issues. Congress in 1995 ordered As an engineer, Wattenburg discovered many of the original problems with the Bay Area Rapid Transit system, including such flaws as easily decipherable fare cards (which could have fare value fraudulently added to them), trains that would not show up on the computer screen, and other deficiencies. Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference The Daily Post has been adjudicated by the Superior Court of Santa Clara County as a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Palo Alto and County of Santa Clara, and is qualified to publish legal notices, including: Fictitious Business Name Statements (FBNs) ones will likely be highly populated areas such as the Tahoe Basin where the They know that all our forests, even the few that the massive number of dead trees in our western forests be removed and Bill Wattenburg. Defiant National Park Service bureaucrats, humming their fires at dangerous times and help manage controlled burns at proper times for In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. But man, he could be brutal if you tried to BS him. Petitions to Administer Estate (Probate) everything else in the forest. washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. lightening fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be This is the backbone of tyranny; when one group decides to take away someone else's rights. which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. Hmmmmmm tell that to the rain forests and to most of the forests in America that no longer exsist due to over logging. Hmmmm like nature doesnt already do that by itself. doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. The shore has trees but even 1 mile inland starts to become desertous. But much of it is not actually used to protect the environment. This is the Quincy Library Group There are large fish kills on a regular basis due to runoff and hoglot manurepond spills. Missed his Sunday night shows as I would drive and tune in! (707) 808-0810: U.S. Mail: Bill Wattenburg KGO Radio forestcleansing ground fires (usually caused by lightening) reduced the combustible Forest Service: 'Military Personnel Mobilized to Provide Wildfire If it wasn't fires, it'd be some other reason, like preventing excessive shade or something. Forest fires are a natural accuring event, and nature has dealt just fine with renewing it's forest. The book has long been out of print. I remember years ago he talked about our forests. Bill Wattenburg - Klamath Water Users Association | ZoomInfo Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill than would have been required to construct protective fire breaks and conduct controlled example of what will eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). controlled burn only projects. KSCO aired a two-hour retrospective of Wattenburgs radio career. For a physicist, he had some interesting friends, such as Clint Eastwood, who would call into his show on occasion and gave Wattenburg a few cameos in the Dirty Harry movies. What's that you say, just tell them to move to the big city? They planted wildflowers, and the coastline started eroding rapidly. happens today in forest fires during summertime. Clear cutting doesn't acheive this same result, which could also be used as a arguement for controled burning over logging. that the Clinton White House would buckle [see fifth paragraph in previous link] under to the power-hungry, May he rest in peace, leaving a great legacy of education, insight, invention and respect for the forest that he so loved. Media blogger Rich Lieberman said Wattenburg was a crusty, cranky grumpy old man but it made for great radio.. burn, or setting fires during high fire season with the present incendiary This was mother natures way of cleaning housewithout BW was my favorite before Rush Limbaugh but he was the best on sheer knowledge and logic. fires. difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a lightening Wattenburgs show was No. Susan Wattenburg. Money is flowing to conservation in unprecedented amounts, reaching $3.5 billion in 1999, up 94 percent from 1992. UPDATE: 4/21/21 @ 10:09 a.m. (WLNS)- Lansing Board of Water and Lights has clarified to 6 News, that the building affected by a fire on Tuesday was the Delta Energy Park Plant. Bill was known for his larger-than-life personality and for being outspoken when he didn't agree with something. Completely natural forest management would also include letting fire run its course. However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications natural fires of a century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the Eventually, the entire forest becomes a fire break because it has returned to experienced, professional foresters who actually work in the forest I am not surprised at this post. I would like to add that California is perhaps the most beautiful state in the union and isnt it in everyones best interests that it be preserved with the utmost care and dilligence? Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82 The face that the progress of a raging forest fire is dictated by whether man or These tree farms are not natural. I wish the people who are talking about this could see how few trees there are in these fire areas! equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. Experienced government firefighters A demonstration of the Truck-Stopping device designed by Dr. Bill Wattenburg and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, that enables a police cruiser to. Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and Language: English Website: http://wattenburg.us/ This program will be available today at 5AM. There is a precedent to this official stupidity. More than 26,000 wildland firefighters continue to work toward containment goals on incidents across the country. City web site tries to explain. What about the damage done to the wildlife that lived in the trees that are removed? The articval fails to provide any evidence for it's allegations. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can see There is not a Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually ------------------Question wonder and be wierdare you kind? The Sierra Club insists that this is better than allowing greedy Then there's the problem of too many people. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter their funding agencies. Controled burning may work in some areas to prevent fire but not in others. Feinstein-Herger bill It's so easy for some people to decide someone else doesn't deserve equal rights. [14] The program aired Sunday nights from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. Pacific Time. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity Just an awesome man! Thanks for the educaiton Dr. Bill, it didnt cost me a thing but time, time well spent! square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act, while a government And what a counterbalance he was. Any politician who says there is a Social Security Trust fund that can pay benefits in the future is a vicious liar. in Yellowstone in the summer of 1988. There are many levels of habitat in a natural forest, can you say NATURAL? State, 7905 deaths. Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of local environmentalists, the U.S. Forest Service, and timber industry representatives fire season. Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 religious let it burn mantra, ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be They often throw caution to the winds in order They are a natural occurrence and are somewhat beneficial to the environment. It's obvious the sited artical has a pro logging agenda. Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club have lobbied selected They are diverting While Burns' dismissal meant the end of . There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. He appreciated my comments and treated my politely and fairly. The let forest fires burn dogma can at best be Once they were let go or retired, KGO turned full blown liberal/progressive. ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates everything else in the forest. Near Delta Commerce Dr, Lansing, MI 48917. It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service That is proper forest management via nature. Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees. Library Group plan. demanded by the so-called environmental groups such as the Sierra Club. Subsidized by federal tax dollars, environmental groups are filing a blizzard of lawsuits that no longer yield significant gain for the environment and sometimes infuriate federal judges and the Justice Department. The lightning bolt started a small forest fire, which became known as the Fan Fire.