60K views, 69 likes, 95 loves, 363 comments, 164 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from KPLC 7 News: Calcasieu Sheriff holds news conference after deadly plane crash near Hackberry. Mancuso was visibly upset by his passing as spoke to those assembled, "He is one of those people you can't replace.". Im not saying thats what happened, just a theory and my original gut feeling of what might have happened, but it is a theory that seems consistent with the facts. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. Perhaps, as a poster mentioned earlier, the trim could be stuck ("runaway") at a nose down attitude for the dive portion of this accident. While at LSU Law School he was selected to the Moot Court Board. Think about the circumstances that would fit with acceptance of not finding the missing blade.Examination of the recovered prop hub must have clearly indicated that the blade was thrown during flight, not broken out during impact. Nose down attitude would be even more likely that the pilots were fixated on full aft elevator. Palermo and Clements were killed when their Cessna. He kept me composed. The NTSB also declared that the plane's crash was the result of "extensive internal failure of the inboard left engine" during . "HACKBERRY, La. The last of ADS-B data from Flight Aware only shows the start of the incident. Killed in the crash. Don is survived by his wife, Nancy Edith Shaddock Clements, and their two children, Mary Kathryn Clements and William Don Clements. The airplane wing never stalled but remained at a high angle of attack just above stall. We appreciate everyone's prayers Clements was a financial planner with Global Asset Management. The report did say that one of the propeller blades was not recovered. CG was okay. When the last jumper goes out or you're doing a hammerhead stall in a glider and the aircraft is simply falling out of the sky, pointed straight down at the ground, you get comfortable waiting for the wing to start flying before easing back on the elevator. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. At impact, the remaining two blades cause the crankshaft to shear aft of the propeller flange. It would be much easier to do if you are solo. Plane nosedived 15 feet into the ground, according to NTSB report on Hackberry plane crash. @Trimble - No CFI would roll or allow his student to roll a 182.Your first paragraph seems to be describing a loop, not a roll. An obituary for Rock Palermo can be found HERE. Would not expect a mayday transmission during a rapidly developing problem.Simplest accident viewpoint is that the elevator stayed streamlined behind the horizontal stabilizer during the dive. No dive. Palermo was also a local attorney at Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson. Would have been found if present at the impact site. Don graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Accounting from Louisiana Tech University. Carbon Monoxide poisoning possibly? In what way am I misinterpreting my observations?BTW, I'm a low-time private pilot who owned a C172 in the late'90s, and I've also logged about forty hours in a C182. Accused murderer cleared by Baton Rouge jury after representing himself in court, released from jail, School accused of ignoring sexual misconduct of student later arrested in high-profile rape case. "I'm sorry. There is a long standing agreement between the NTSB and the FAA that the NTSB, because of being short-staffed, has the official authority and do relegate most general aviation accidents solely to the FAA. HACKBERRY, La. Later 182's do not.https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/11/02/2020-24046/airworthiness-directives-textron-aviation-inc-airplanes. You made some very astute observations focused on elevator issues, compounded by the possible loss of a blade. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. Controls were likely held full aft all the way to impact. This is the type of crash that likely catches LOTS of self-aware pilots' attentionInre your (Winchman's) observation/question noted in the 1st paragraph, writing as a (never-used-for-income) aerospace-engineering-degreed, ~2600-hr glider-only pilot who also 'messed around w. RC gliders', one 'obvious difference' between RC power planes and full-sized ones is what I'll call 'prop-disc-area/mass ratio' differences, with the RC 'ratio' being considerably higher than that for man-carrying (182) equivalents. Daniel Dal Zennaro/EPA-EFE/Shutt. Sheriff Ron Johnson told KPLC that the plane crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. Palermo was a local attorney at Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson and was a pilot with the Calcasieu Parish Sheriffs Office. It's easy to understand accidents that have a clear path of poor decisions. (AP) A pilot and a passenger in a small airplane were killed when the plane crashed in a rural area near North Platte in central Nebraska, officials said. Date & Time: February 2, 2021, 17:44 Local, Flight Conducted Under: Part 91: General aviation - Instructional. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. The airplane had high sink rate with a relatively flat attitude (nose close to the horizon). Bold criminal secretly relaunched massage parlor prostitution ring as he cut a Federal, local dollars at work clearing waterways in EBR. BATON ROUGE - A man arrested for running Friday PM Forecast: starting weekend cooler then trending warmer. Flight control cable continuity was established for all flight control surfaces through tensile overload separations in several locations. Another partial owner of the plane told investigators that the pilot had just bought a share of the aircraft and was accumulating flight hours to get rated for complex and high-performance planes, according to the report. 0:47. Anyone who cared about the families and somehow detected the blade, would not rest until investigators obtained the blade. That person told investigators he was in the back seat during a training flight on Feb. 1, and the man had done well on flight maneuvers. The Martin 404 aircraft was heading to . They consider him a mentor and the best pilot they knew. It may have required tools to get it out of the ground. The plane then submerged, he told. Philip Clements, a 62-year-old Chester Township man, was killed in the crash and was the lone passenger on the plane. Clements, 61, was flying alone from Alberta, Canada, to California on Feb. 22, 2015. The weekend will start with temperatures 20 degrees lower than Friday morning! CG forward of the forward limit? He was a lifetime member of the Louisiana Coastal Conservation Association (CCA), which is a non-profit organization dedicated to the conservation of Louisianas marine resources. Records show that the day's first flight ended about 2:36 p.m. I watched all three episodes of Utube guy, and I still dont really know what his theory really was. Authorities have identified the victims as Rock Palermo and Richard Don Clements. The wreckage was recovered to a secure storage facility where an engine and airframe examination was completed under the supervision of a Federal Aviation Administration inspector. Watch the 2 Your Health report for Thursday, Watch the 2 Your Health report for Tuesday, Crawfish Tracker: Signs of life (and price drops). BATON ROUGE - Friday, the LSU Tigers participated in the Podium Challenge, a gymnastics club meet featuring teams from California, Washington and George Washington Universities. whatever you told him to study, he studied it. But in this case, the airplane attitude was flat with nose close to the horizon, wings level (except for the last turn to the east), all the way to impact. He was a member of the Civil Air Patrol, the United States Air Force Auxiliary, and held the rank of Colonel. Another partial owner of the plane told investigators that the pilot had just bought a share of the aircraft and was accumulating flight hours to get rated for complex and high-performance planes, according to the report. 7 California, No. Paul Skenes fans a career high 13 in No. When Don wasnt involved in hunting, fishing, and music, he was at home in his beautiful rose garden and vegetable garden, which he nurtured in order to bring fresh roses and vegetables on a regular basis to his beloved wife, Nancy. Two bodies were recovered from the wreckage. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. So sad for these pilots, probably not due to anything they did wrong. Winds will ease into the evening. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. Wednesday afternoon, a procession was held as Palermo was brought to a Jennings funeral home, click here for more. Cameron Sheriff: Two bodies recovered from plane crash near Hackberry, La. Smoke in the cockpit that turned into a wiring fire behind the panel is a possibility not yet mentioned that might fit the circumstances. He was a certified flight instructor and passed on his joy of flying to many. Flight instructor, student pilot identified as victims in fatal plane crash near Hackberry. Hes just one of those people you cant replace.. In the N3RB accident, the tuber wrongly asserted that the pilot murdered a co-pilot.Unfortunately, those enthusiastic followers who ignore the tuber's established pattern of false claims and obvious click baiting don't care about defined NTSB/FAA roles or delegation.The biggest tell of the whole charade is exploitation of the accident victim's loved ones. I try to plot out the ADSB data listed above in my head, and that seems to be how they crashed. quote: Was a 1979 Cessna 182 N4765N. Email notifications are only sent once a day, and only if there are new matching items. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed Tuesday night when the small plane they were in crashed in Cameron Parish. We appreciate everyone's prayers Clements was a financial planner with Global Asset Management. In previous comments I made elsewhere, I was just speculating. He was preceded in death by his father, Richard Don Clements, Sr. but is survived by his mother, Carolyn Joy Templeton Clements and his brother, Kirk Alan Clements, both of whom reside in Denton, Texas. An uncontrollable dive in an otherwise intact 182 certainly brings the elevator performance into the picture.Thanks for including the link to the FAA's "Dirty Dozen" of human-factor issues related to maintenance practices - good reading for 182 owners. The report did not identify any witnesses by name. In lieu of flowers, donation can be made to the music mission at First United Methodist Church in Lake Charles or to a charity of your choice. Investigating accidents and making cogent, helpful recommendations is the NTSB's job. File photo of police lights (iStockPhoto). I suggested this in comments a couple of other places, and every time I've gotten ripped on about how wrong I was, and I probably am wrong, but I had a gut feeling about this when I first heard of it, two guys in a modern regular nothing special airplane doing minor training, returning to the airport, aircraft was 4,000 AGL then inexplicably nosedives into the ground, severe clear visibility calm winds, no obvious weather or mechanical reason for the crash. It seems like something major must have gone wrong here. (KPLC) -The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating the deadly crash that claimed the life of two well known citizens in our area. Distance To/From what? The third blade was recovered at the crash site, just not by the "NTSB" Who ever recovered the airplane did not do a thorough enough job. The passenger plane with 190 people on board crashed at the Calicut airport in the southern state of Kerala, killing 21 people. On January 30, 1993, Don married the love of his life, Nancy Edith Shaddock Clements, at the First United Methodist Church in Lake Charles, LA. The autopsies of the victims reported the cause of death for both was multiple injuries sustained from the crash. Many parts and pieces were left behind at the crash site, including the third blade!! The intentional lie about finding the missing blade showed how little regard for their loss the tuber actually has. Something dramatic clearly went wrong here. Smoke billows after a small touring plane crashed over the San Donato Milanese district in Milan. The National Transportation Safety Board said the single-engine plane crashed around 9:30 a.m. As a result of inadequate maintenance, the aircraft's No. Don was a member of the Krewe of Contraband. This one is just tough.". Calcasieu Sheriff Tony Mancuso got emotional while speaking Wednesday morning at a news conference. Visitation will be at the church from 12:00-3:00 pm. Youtube guy Dan Gryder claims to have found the third blade at the crash site. Distance From: 4,325 feet @ 29.9898 -93.3416 Distance To: Wreckage and Impact Information Latitude, Longitude: 30.009412,-93.330048 (est)Calculated Distance Straight line distance: 1.28 miles , 2.07 kilometers (km) , 6785 feet , 2068 meters. 6. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182 four-seater, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. Accused murderer cleared by Baton Rouge jury after representing himself in court, released from jail, School accused of ignoring sexual misconduct of student later arrested in high-profile rape case. The fuel selector valve was found positioned to feed from both fuel tanks. On Sept. 10, the plane, a Aerofab Lake LA-4-250, N1401P was found near the . The FAA is proposing this AD to address the unsafe condition on these products.DATES:The FAA must receive comments on this proposed AD by June 29, 2020. Port Allen Pelicans basketball team soaring toward fourth-straight state title, Sample duo leading Scotlandville into playoffs, For help accessing the WBRZ-TV Public File, contact: Joey Verrett at, LSU gymnastics club meet brings tourists to downtown Baton Rouge. In the last 12 seconds of recorded data, the airplane made a right turn and had descended about 3,200 ft. He and the department announced the death of Rock Palermo who was employed by the sheriff's office. MOON TOWNSHIP, Pa. Greater Pittsburgh Airport was still considered new when the regularly scheduled TWA Flight 400 crashed on Easter Sunday in 1956. 2 engine failed after takeoff. Barbe High orchestra plays at Lake Charles Airport, Lake Charles residents concerned about cracked pavement. Both men considered Palermo a close friend and mentor--the one theyd want on hand in an emergency. They will update with funeral arrangements and honors at a future date. Im still waiting on the full report from N8991W. In lieu of flowers, the family requests that you make a charitable donation to The St. Nicholas Center for Children in Lake Charles, LA (www.stnickcenter.org) or Concerns of Police Survivors (www.concernsofpolicesurvivors.org). They consider him a mentor and the best pilot they knew. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. They say Palermo sometimes helped out at their school, Plane Simple Flight School. That's why this case caught my attention. Sign up for newsletters emailed to your inbox. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. Look it up. Two witnesses were in close proximity to the accident site, but different locations, stated that they observed the airplane in a rapid descent with the nose pointed at the ground. Romanian billionaire Dan Petrescu and his family were killed in . The engine was unable to rotate through due to the impact damage. Both Thompson and Alex Kerbow were trained by Palermo to be commercial pilots and flight instructors. An ATP-rated CFI teaching another pilot, good weather, an aircraft known to be fairly reliable and having docile characteristics. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182. He enjoyed every minute spent with them, from discussing politics and world travel with Rachel to attending Ryans baseball games to listening to Sarah play guitar and speak the Spanish language. See March 8, 2021 at 10:18:00 AM EST comment discussion string up thread on search for the missing blade. They took off, flew out somewhere to do a bunch of maneuvers, were flying back some distance, got close to home, decided to try a slow roll, smurfed it, augered it straight into the mud. As noted earlier, The airplane reached about 4,500 ft above ground level (agl), as the airspeed decreased.and "recorded ADS-B data distance From: 4,325 feet @ 29.9898 -93.3416 To: Wreckage and Impact Information Latitude, Longitude: 30.009412,-93.330048 (est) has a Calculated Distance Straight line distance of only 1.28 miles"Apparent mechanical failure, or failure in the cabin.. "The crankshaft sheared aft of the propeller flange. (KPLC) . Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash and will turn over the investigation to Federal Aviation Administration investigators from Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. All rights reserved. The airplane impacted soft ground on an island about 1.5 nautical miles northeast of Hackberry. That is the question we would ALL like to know, but the NTSB didn't even bother to go to the accident location. Well I guess everything is possible until we know for sure: suicide, murder, kamikaze, paranormal activity, higher calling, medical, etc. The families have been notified, they report. No matter how much his soul hates the NTSB, only a cruel ghoul would leave the wreck site without making sure the blade got into hands-on possession of the local FSDO. A talented photographer, he documented his familys numerous trips and adventures. It is a detailed order of 40+ pages. Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry on Tuesday, Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso announced Wednesday. "Tue 06:41:31 PM 29.9490 -93.3408 351 110 127 4,225 367 Climbing Tue 06:41:50 PM 29.9582 -93.3425 352 116 133 4,275 Level Tue 06:42:06 PM 29.9667 -93.3437 356 115 132 4,225 47 Climbing Tue 06:42:22 PM 29.9747 -93.3442 359 95 109 4,300 214 Climbing Tue 06:42:41 PM 29.9824 -93.3438 9 82 94 4,350 36 Climbing Tue 06:43:04 PM 29.9898 -93.3416 20 66 76 4,325 -205 Descending Tue 06:43:25 PM Tue 06:43:25 PM 29.9947 -93.3391 29 56 64 4,200 -357 Descending. He is survived by his wife, Nancy, and their children, Mary Kathryn and Will. Don't count on him providing a true photo of that blade, dug out of the sand bar.The grieving families will suffer his "leaving it" as cruelty. They're not "investigating" anything. End of the "report" will read, aircraft crashed under unknown circumstances. Beefier police presence planned at football game after BRPD chief got into scuffle while making arrest near campus. You are misinterpreting your RC observations.Aircraft would be falling out of the sly every day if throttling back blanked the elevator.The man actually is off on a crazy idea, but nonsense on youtube always finds devoted followers. or a practice incipient spin, that got the spin stopped , but the nose did not come up, due to forward c of g? If so, the wreckage would bear witness to that once the mud is removed. Don and his wife, Nancy chaired the Big Lake Invitational Fishing Tournament for many years. The bodies were identified as Rock Palermo and Richard Don Clements, Mancuso said in a news conference. Records show that the days first flight ended about 2:36 p.m. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182 four-seater, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. They are using COVID as an excuse to be LAZY and not work. This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. There was not immediate information about arrangements. No words exist to describe the void that will be left by Rocks absence. Copyright 2021 KPLC. GREENVILLE, S.C. - No. Rock touched many, many people and this is about as tough a loss as you can get for this office and this community, Mancuso said. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. The plane, an Aerofab Lake LA-4-250, hit trees and terrain shortly after takeoff around 8:48 p.m. on Tuesday, Sept. 8, the report said. Rock Palermo and Don Clements. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Cameron Parish Sheriff Don Johnson said Tuesday evening. She died in the 1998 crash of Swissair Flight 111 with her husband, Jonathan Mann, while traveling to a World Health Organization meeting in Geneva. November 10, 2022. Besides being a talented musician, Don loved to travel, hike, fish and hunt. LSU pitcher Paul Skenes LSU women's basketball beats Georgia 83-66 in SEC Tournament matchup. Two bodies were removed from the plane that crashed Tuesday evening on a small island near Hackberry, Cameron Parish Sheriff Ron Johnson told news agencies. The weekend Friday AM Forecast: Wind Advisory this morning, clear and sunny this afternoon. Sorting out the problem and making a timely decision to get on the trim control would certainly be a challenge in that scenario. No CFI would loop or allow his student to loop a 182.Not surprised that your "gut feeling" was criticized. The sales broker for the plane told investigators that on the day of the crash, the pilot reported completing a one-hour flight to meet insurance policy requirements. It said the plane was traveling about 4,500 feet above ground as the air speed decreased and began a slow descent. Again scratching head. Bold criminal secretly relaunched massage parlor prostitution ring as he cut a deal with prosecutors. Youll never convince me other than it was a catastrophic failure of the aircraft because Rock knew exactly what to do, said Thompson. On Wednesday, Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancusos voice broke as he told reporters that one victim, Rock Palermo, was the departments pilot, attorney and friend. Richard Don Clements, 55, a well-respected financial planner and talented musician, died on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 in an aviation accident. All rights reserved. Kerbow was an instructor for Clements, who was a newly licensed pilot. To view all the aviation investigation items released by NTSB, CLICK HERE. You can be sure that he did NOT find the blade, because he says he left it there. Dr Mary Lou Clements-Mann, epidemiologist and leading researcher on AIDS vaccines, dies with her husband, Dr Jonathan Max Mann, in Swissair plane crash off Nova Scotia; couple were on their way to . The airplane reached about 4,500 ft above ground level (agl), as the airspeed decreased. GREENVILLE, S.C. - No. I never saw more lawsuits against management at this organization that were justified, but those affected did not care because the money they caused the taxpayers to forfeit did not come out of their pockets. His half scale model Spacewalker needs to weigh 400 lbs in order to replicate prop disc effects faithfully. i could tell him to study something, hed come in and hed know more about it than me, he said. ADVERTISEMENT. Palermo was a local attorney at Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson and was a pilot with the Calcasieu Parish Sheriffs Office. Visualize being the FAA rep on scene for parts recovery when the hub was pulled up with one blade missing. The last 12 seconds of recorded data show the plane made a right turn and descended 3,200 feet leading up to the accident. Providence Sacred Heart Medical Center confirmed that 61-year-old Michael Clements died Tuesday.